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QUESTION: Does Paul mean that "obey" and "honor" of your parents is the same thing, or are they distinct things such that "honor" as a command is grounding the command to "obey"? QUESTION: Paul here, after stating that there is one new people out of two, and in other places stating that there is no Jew or Greek, male nor female, slave nor free in Christ, seems to indicate that being in Christ does not obliterate those categories from Christians’ lives. How? QUESTION: Does the above answer relate to the statement that we are to submit to earthly masters "as to Christ"? Does it mean that we are *not* really slaves of those masters and only to Christ, or does it mean we are slaves *only* of those masters and we are to submit "as if" to Christ, or does it mean we are slaves to *both* at once and we have some redirection internally that we must do to submit well in this age?

10000000006562 6562 Notes 2009-04-26 18:07:00 2009-04-30 09:51:04 QUESTION: Does Paul mean that "obey" and "honor" of your parents is the same thing, or are they distinct things such that "honor" as a command is grounding the command to "obey"? QUESTION: Paul here, after stating that there is one new people out of two, and in other places stating that there is no Jew or Greek, male nor female, slave nor free in Christ, seems to indicate that being in Christ does not obliterate those categories from Christians’ lives. How? QUESTION: Does the above answer relate to the statement that we are to submit to earthly masters "as to Christ"? Does it mean that we are *not* really slaves of those masters and only to Christ, or does it mean we are slaves *only* of those masters and we are to submit "as if" to Christ, or does it mean we are slaves to *both* at once and we have some redirection internally that we must do to submit well in this age? notes

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Ephesians

Ephesians 6:1-9

NT

tisch

mine

τὰ τέκνα ὑπακούετε τοῖς γονεῦσιν ὑμῶν ἐν κυρίῳ τοῦτο

γάρ ἐστιν δίκαιον

ground

τίμα τὸν πατέρα σου καὶ τὴν μητέρα

[3a] ἵνα εὖ σοι γένηται

[3b] καὶ ἔσῃ μακροχρόνιος ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς

series

actionpurpose

[2b] ἥτις ἐστὶν ἐντολὴ πρώτη ἐν ἐπαγγελίᾳ

ideaexplanation

καὶ οἱ πατέρες μὴ παροργίζετε τὰ τέκνα ὑμῶν

ἀλλὰ ἐκτρέφετε αὐτὰ ἐν παιδείᾳ καὶ νουθεσίᾳ κυρίου

negativepositive

progression

οἱ δοῦλοι ὑπακούετε τοῖς κατὰ σάρκα κυρίοις

μετὰ φόβου καὶ τρόμου ἐν ἁπλότητι τῆς καρδίας ὑμῶν

actionmanner

ὡς τῷ Χριστῷ

[do this submitting] as [you were submitting] to Christ

μὴ κατ' ὀφθαλμοδουλίαν

ὡς ἀνθρωπάρεσκοι

comparison

ἀλλ' ὡς δοῦλοι Χριστοῦ

ποιοῦντες τὸ θέλημα τοῦ θεοῦ ἐκ ψυχῆς

μετ' εὐνοίας δουλεύοντες

ὡς τῷ κυρίῳ

καὶ οὐκ ἀνθρώποις

εἰδότες ὅτι ἕκαστος ἐάν τι ποιήσῃ ἀγαθόν

τοῦτο κομίσεται παρὰ κυρίου

conditional

εἴτε δοῦλος εἴτε ἐλεύθερος

concessive

καὶ οἱ κύριοι τὰ αὐτὰ ποιεῖτε πρὸς αὐτούς

ἀνιέντες τὴν ἀπειλήν

εἰδότες ὅτι καὶ αὐτῶν καὶ ὑμῶν ὁ κύριός ἐστιν ἐν οὐρανοῖς

καὶ προσωπολημψία οὐκ ἔστιν παρ' αὐτῷ

discourse

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