Put to death the earthly
Colossians 3:5-11
Central Idea: Because Christ is our focus, put these earthly things away.
Published June 1st, 2012
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2009-03-08 20:29:48
Central Idea: Because Christ is our focus, put these earthly things away. Notes/thoughts: How to relate vv. 5-8? Option 1: v 6 could be bilateral - the ground for the commands of "put to death" and "put them away." Problem: But then v. 7 seems to be an awkward fit. It does not really support v 6, but more v 5. Option 2: v 6 as the ground for v 5. with v 7 giving temporal and locative information of v. 5. Then v. 8 would have a coordinate relationship with v 5. Problem: "nuni de" - the "but now" seems to indicate not a coordinate relationship with v 5, but a coordinate relationship on v 6-7, giving an alternative . Option 3: Because of the "nuni de" in v 8, it seems that it most logically relates to 7 as an alternative coordinate relationship. This would elimnate 7a as "locative" - I think - with the force of 7a expressing more the main idea ("you once walked in this") rather than location ("you once walked in these.") This also logically flows with v 7a indicating "once" and 8 indicating "now." The relationship between vv 5-6 and vv 7-8, then, would be more of a series of commands, with v 9 following in that series. How to relate vv 5-10 with 11? It seems like 11 comes out of nowhere. Paul gives a series of commands related to moritfying the flesh and then adds this comment about "in this place there is no distinction, but Christ is the focus." How does Christ being the focus relate to the commands above it? The option I see is ground . Christ at the center is the reason/the basis for why we want to mortify the flesh. 11a and b stump me. I don't have a clear picture yet of why Paul would put this in his letter at this point. Could it be that focus on distinctions breeds "fleshly" and "earthly" lifestyles? I'm not sure this is what he's saying, but I can't figure out why he puts 11a in at this point.
10000000005363 5363 Notes 2009-03-06 20:48:00 2009-03-08 20:29:48 Central Idea: Because Christ is our focus, put these earthly things away. Notes/thoughts: How to relate vv. 5-8? Option 1: v 6 could be bilateral - the ground for the commands of "put to death" and "put them away." Problem: But then v. 7 seems to be an awkward fit. It does not really support v 6, but more v 5. Option 2: v 6 as the ground for v 5. with v 7 giving temporal and locative information of v. 5. Then v. 8 would have a coordinate relationship with v 5. Problem: "nuni de" - the "but now" seems to indicate not a coordinate relationship with v 5, but a coordinate relationship on v 6-7, giving an alternative . Option 3: Because of the "nuni de" in v 8, it seems that it most logically relates to 7 as an alternative coordinate relationship. This would elimnate 7a as "locative" - I think - with the force of 7a expressing more the main idea ("you once walked in this") rather than location ("you once walked in these.") This also logically flows with v 7a indicating "once" and 8 indicating "now." The relationship between vv 5-6 and vv 7-8, then, would be more of a series of commands, with v 9 following in that series. How to relate vv 5-10 with 11? It seems like 11 comes out of nowhere. Paul gives a series of commands related to moritfying the flesh and then adds this comment about "in this place there is no distinction, but Christ is the focus." How does Christ being the focus relate to the commands above it? The option I see is ground . Christ at the center is the reason/the basis for why we want to mortify the flesh. 11a and b stump me. I don't have a clear picture yet of why Paul would put this in his letter at this point. Could it be that focus on distinctions breeds "fleshly" and "earthly" lifestyles? I'm not sure this is what he's saying, but I can't figure out why he puts 11a in at this point. notes
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Colossians
Colossians 3:5-11
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νεκρώσατε οὖν τὰ μέλη τὰ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς πορνείαν ἀκαθαρσίαν πάθος ἐπιθυμίαν κακήν καὶ τὴν πλεονεξίαν
Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness,
ἥτις ἐστὶν εἰδωλολατρία
which is idolatry.
ideaexplanation
δι' ἃ ἔρχεται ἡ ὀργὴ τοῦ θεοῦ ἐπὶ τοὺς υἱοὺς τῆς ἀπειθείας
(For) On account of these the wrath of God is coming.
ground
ἐν οἷς καὶ ὑμεῖς περιεπατήσατέ ποτε
In these you too once walked,
ὅτε ἐζῆτε ἐν τούτοις
when you were living in them.
temporal
νυνὶ δὲ ἀπόθεσθε καὶ ὑμεῖς τὰ πάντα ὀργήν θυμόν κακίαν βλασφημίαν αἰσχρολογίαν ἐκ τοῦ στόματος ὑμῶν
(But now, put away also all anger . . .) But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.
alternative
μὴ ψεύδεσθε εἰς ἀλλήλους
Do not lie to one another,
ἀπεκδυσάμενοι τὸν παλαιὸν ἄνθρωπον σὺν ταῖς πράξεσιν αὐτοῦ
seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices
καὶ ἐνδυσάμενοι τὸν νέον
and have put on the new self,
τὸν ἀνακαινούμενον εἰς ἐπίγνωσιν κατ' εἰκόνα τοῦ κτίσαντος αὐτόν
which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator.
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ὅπου οὐκ ἔνι Ἕλλην καὶ Ἰουδαῖος περιτομὴ καὶ ἀκροβυστία βάρβαρος Σκύθης δοῦλος ἐλεύθερος
Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free;
ἀλλὰ τὰ πάντα καὶ ἐν πᾶσιν Χριστός
but Christ is all, and in all.
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10000000005363 5363 Arc 2009-03-06 20:48:00 2009-03-08 20:29:48 editing Colossians 3 5 3 11 Colossians 3:5-11 51 NT tisch esv i166709 i166710 i166711 i166712 i166697 νεκρώσατε οὖν τὰ μέλη τὰ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς πορνείαν ἀκαθαρσίαν πάθος ἐπιθυμίαν κακήν καὶ τὴν πλεονεξίαν Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, i166698 ἥτις ἐστὶν εἰδωλολατρία which is idolatry. ideaexplanation 1 i166699 δι' ἃ ἔρχεται ἡ ὀργὴ τοῦ θεοῦ ἐπὶ τοὺς υἱοὺς τῆς ἀπειθείας (For) On account of these the wrath of God is coming. ground 1 i166713 i166714 i166700 ἐν οἷς καὶ ὑμεῖς περιεπατήσατέ ποτε In these you too once walked, i166701 ὅτε ἐζῆτε ἐν τούτοις when you were living in them. temporal 1 i166702 νυνὶ δὲ ἀπόθεσθε καὶ ὑμεῖς τὰ πάντα ὀργήν θυμόν κακίαν βλασφημίαν αἰσχρολογίαν ἐκ τοῦ στόματος ὑμῶν (But now, put away also all anger . . .) But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth. alternative i166715 i166703 μὴ ψεύδεσθε εἰς ἀλλήλους Do not lie to one another, i166716 i166704 ἀπεκδυσάμενοι τὸν παλαιὸν ἄνθρωπον σὺν ταῖς πράξεσιν αὐτοῦ seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices i166705 καὶ ἐνδυσάμενοι τὸν νέον and have put on the new self, i166706 τὸν ἀνακαινούμενον εἰς ἐπίγνωσιν κατ' εἰκόνα τοῦ κτίσαντος αὐτόν which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator. ground 1 series i166717 i166707 ὅπου οὐκ ἔνι Ἕλλην καὶ Ἰουδαῖος περιτομὴ καὶ ἀκροβυστία βάρβαρος Σκύθης δοῦλος ἐλεύθερος Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free; i166708 ἀλλὰ τὰ πάντα καὶ ἐν πᾶσιν Χριστός but Christ is all, and in all. negativepositive 2 ground 1 1 1 1 tisch 25 esv 25 a 50 discourse
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